The Secret’s David Schirmer exposed

I had posted criticism of The Secret in the past and was told I was being negative. Maybe those people could take a couple minutes to watch this video.


  • There is no doubt that the secret is to take and not give. When you do that then eventually it all catches up with you, and the less of the Schirmer type we have in the world the better it will be. Simply put he is a thief.

  • Episode 3 of schirmer on ACA on channel 9 at 0630p Monday night (June 25, 2007) in Oz.

    No doubt this will appear on Youtube shortly after. It could well have another ’secret teacher’ on it that is not all that impressed with schirmers antics.

  • Schirmer is pollution to The Secret and Bob Proctor and his mates should be removing him. If he owes someone even lunch money he does not deserve to be in The Secret because the proof of him being a Conman not only is financially damaging to everyone it is also emotionally damaging. Good on you Schirmer, you have just made a complete arse of yourself and disgusted everyone who has wanted to do the right thing with this. Byrnes has done a good job on the marketing and presentation, shame she didn’t do the checks on those she was associating with. Next time she might be a bit more careful and I doubt we’ll see Schirmer in any future editions and neither should we.

  • Found this on another site.

    “What happened to the book that David Schirmer was supposed to be giving out at the last Mind and Money event late last year. His marketing said he was going to have a book there and Gerry Roberts also said that everyone would get one of his books from David Schirmer. Have they been sent out? Did anyone get it or was that another Schirmer lie? I think the Title was something like “If I Can Do It You Can Too” or something weird like that. That sure has a different ring to it now.”

    I think we all need to know what this guy has been up to.

  • David and Lorna Schirmer are refusing to communicate with everyone they owe money to including people who did work for them late in 2006. Now they will have to suffer trial by media because they have made the decision not to be honest or trustworthy. The Schirmers version of honesty is blaming others with lies which goes against everything that The Secret teaches. I have no idea how David Schirmer could ever have been included in The Secret in the first place it is a disgrace. Rhona Byrne should be suing David Schimer for his dishonesty as it would have cost her a fortune despite the fortune she has already made. He has disgraced her name in her home country and pulled the credibility of The Secret down with him. The Schirmers have lied to their clients, they have lied to their investors, they have lied to their traders, they have lied to their suppliers, they have lied to their work staff, family and friends and continue to and they refuse to be any different why? Because they have spent their entire lives being this way so they have to to keep up with appearances and the lies otherwise their whole world will fall apart. From the evidence the media now have they have been this way from when they started in business 20 odd years ago. Everything is explained as to why things did not work out then and it is exactly why things are not working out today. They have continued to take from everyone else and live off those funds by putting them into their business and them siphoning it off for themselves and refuse to pay anyone back. They are now suffering karma, the law of attraction or Gods law at work. Call it whatever you like and the only people answerable for that are the Schirmers. In the end some people might lose some money but David and Lorna Schirmer lose all respect, their dignity, their reputation and everything that they have lived for and craved for years. I ask, who loses the most?

  • Today is DDay for David Schirmer and there are a lot of people watching.

    This is what the secret IS in my opinion:

    a) A massive marketing campaign designed to line the pockets of the teachers NOT help the masses.

    b) An evil form of human seduction and emotional manipulation.

    Not one of the teachers on The Secret are making REAL changes to humanity despite boasting about making their millions. If they are, wheres the proof?

    Where are the Mother Theresa’s the ones who are willing to live ample but humble lives and gift their excess successes to the needy? Instead they choose to tell the needy that they created their own problems so get off your butt and fix it up. Try telling that to a small child in Africa with aids. This is the most evil that mankind can be and by the looks of it, the only reason why he talks like this is because he has nothing to give because he has spent it all living a pretentiously wealthy lifestyle. Lets see if he can prove that one wrong today.

    We all hope that Schirmers wrongs can be righted and that MUST start today otherwise David Schirmer should be seriously under investigation by everyone not just the authorities. For the Schirmers to continue successfully now is almost impossible according to the laws he feels compelled to egotistically preach when all the evidence shows that he knows bugger all about any of it.

  • David Schirmer maybe a conman but let’s not overlook Bob Proctor’s involvement. Life Success is run by the two of them. I’m not for Schirmer and I think what he did was extremely awful however Bob Proctor is no different. This is not the first time Bob has had involvement with someone/something that is unethical and immoral not to mention illegal. Bob was involved in the SGR Program which was also illegal in it’s first run and like schirmer tried to cover that fact up. Honestly, I’d like to see ACA or some american channel do an expose of Bob Proctor. He’s been screwing people out of their money for a long time with his self help mumbo jumbo and has no evidence to back up his claim’s. When I last met him he bragged about his Jaguar (Which I’ve never seen in person) and told me he was a multimillionaire (again no proof)…could it be that he’s exactly like schirmer taking money of unsuspecting people to fund his own lavish lifesytle???

    *Link Edited*

    The comment’s were written by an Investigative reporter by the name of Andrew Geller who like Ben wanted to expose Bob for all the lies and get rich quick schemes he has been fooling people with.

    This blog is run by a company (Mindvalley) that developed the SGR Program along with Bob and together they even tried to cover up the truth by deleting the reporters comments and threating him.

    I’ve personally emailed the reporter for more info on the sgr program and he’s provided me with a great load of info..including how they faked testimonials, broke the law and comment spammed etc

    I use to be a strong believer in the Secret and the Law of attraction but now I can see that it’s all just one big marketing scam aiming at reeling in suckers like you and me…to make the so called “guru’s” millionaires.

  • Why is David Schirmer selling the Life Success products through his own company? I considered this opportunity a few years ago and I thought the investors are taking legal action over this because they have not had a refund of their investment or any profit share while Schirmer has been publicly boasting of millions of dollars of profits. Is this another example of Schirmer ethics or just a sign of desparation? I would advise anyone to contact the media to find out who the investors are and speak to them before they pay David Schirmer anything for the affiliate opportunity he is offering through his Wealth By Choice company. I also think that anyone interested in any of Schirmers products should investigate whether he has a license to sell the products he is offering including the music and the books. In the end if you buy these opportunities you are responsible for what you are selling to the public and what music you are using and what you are saying. Be very careful, this guy has shown that he has no ethics and is apparently being investigated as well as having legal action taken against him. The investigation process is slow but the action will be swift and you don’t want to be caught up in it after outlaying thousands of dollars for nothing. You have time to investigate and remember investigating is not asking David Schirmer what the truth is, he is a salesman and will only EVER tell you what he wants you to know because he needs your money to finance his lifestyle. He has obviously shown no intentions of paying anyone back the money that he owes. Be smart because if you get involved with Schirmer, you are going to need to be.

  • Noted quantum physics expert Scientist Bob Proctor and his pals, as well as nearly 2,000 personal-growth junkies, are taking over an entire ship in October! The Reverend Michael Beckwith, is going to be on board as well, raising the vibe by perpetrating a special meditation every morning. Also appearing will be several other renowned hustledorks self-help stars whom Scientist Bob is raving about but most of whom, frankly, I’ve never heard of.

    Alas, for some reason, it doesn’t look as if Bob’s former co-hort, Aussie Secret star David Schirmer, is going to be on board. And the two of them were so good together! (Check out the ACA Interview online where David was exposed for FRAUD in Australia – Bob and David are now being investigated by the Australian Securities Commission for Breaking the Law and fooling/stealing for Investors. Many of their company’s have been suspended and the they may face jail time and a hefty fine. Bob and david are both partners in the SGR Program).

    On the cruise Bob will also be featuring New Thought star Mary Morrissey, whose husband Edward served prison time for laundering money and using funds from his wife’s church for personal expenses, so maybe there will be something of a sense of continuity. (It should be noted that Mary herself was never charged with a crime, and I am sure she knew absolutely nothing about what Eddie was up to.) Anyway, according to the Son of Bob – Brian Proctor, “Mary Morrissey will be on board to do a program with Bob Proctor that will be introduced for the first time on the ship.” Here’s more info about what will be happening when the Self-Love Boat sets sail.

    There will be plenty of opportunities on the cruise for you to learn how to get rich quick, or, even more important, make Bob and his friends richer. F’rinstance, there will be an opportunity to get in on Bob’s Science of Getting Rich program (Which is an Illegal MLM Scheme). And there will be all sorts of additional programs, products, and services to help you max out your plastic.

    No doubt about it, the Mexican Riviera will never be the same. In fact, with a couple thousand aggressively self-improving folks on board, who knows what profound Earth changes will occur? The resulting vibes could be overwhelming; this might just be the event that causes not only California, but the entire West Coast of North America, to finally break off and sink into the ocean.

    And even if that doesn’t happen, there’s something else that might be a red flag for the potential cruiser: the possibility of body-snatcher or walk-in situations. If you watch the video on the site I linked to above, you’ll hear Scientist Bob saying that he guarantees that each person who walks up that gangplank onto the ship will be a completely different person by the time he or she disembarks.

    So I’d be careful if I were you.

    PS ~ Some lyrics that popped up in my head…(the doors – Ship of fools)…

  • It’s no surprise that the secret has many more secret’s. I’ve just found out that Dr. Joe Vitale a teacher featured in the secret is not an actual doctor. He just gave himself that title inorder to build credibility. Why am i not surprised. That’s exactly what david did when he said he was worth millions. Credibility in an Internet Marketer (Scammers) best friend it allows them to get peoples trust and more importantly their money. I’ve searched the internet and consulted with professors at Local Universities – There is no such thing as a doctorate in Metaphysical studies which Joe Vitale claims to have. God, I feel sorry for all those poor people that invested with him after watching the secret.

    Since this is new news, I’d appreciate it if some of you spread the news just like you’ve done with David Schirmer to prevent other unsuspecting people/investors from getting burned.

    Also while we are on the subject I’ve done some digging behind Michael Beckwith another teacher in the secret and cannot find any information on the doctorate he claims to have…I really hope he didn’t fake his doctorate to gain popularity…he was my favourite teacher.

    It seems like the LOA has ultimately back fired on the Secret Teachers and Rhonda Bryne. Reminds me of the saying “The Hunter has finally become the hunted”. For the people these guys have conned I hope they spend and eternity in hell.

    I apologize for my language but I’ve lost a ton of money to these people and I’m not to happy about it.

  • For Christs sake Schirmer, who the hell gives a shit whether Tony Robbins helped you or not the fact is YOU HAVE STOLEN FROM PEOPLE AND REFUSE TO RETURN WHAT IS NOT YOURS. Until you get that through your head your business will suffer. Interesting how you quote that you have made sooooooooooo much money but where the hell is it you idiot? If you have made so much WHY ARE YOU SO IN DEBT? Why do you owe all these people so much money. Quit the lies and come clean otherwise suffer the consequences you idiot.

  • I am finding the same people everywhere I go investigating David Schirmer.

    I find it very disturbing that one man can impact the lives of so many people so negatively yet be attempting to teach people the right way to live. I think he is a hypocrite and should walk away or be forced to walk away from the personal development industry. David Schirmer is causing more hurt by continuing along his greedy path to self gratification and it looks like he doesn’t care in he least. I believe his stubborness and greed will be his downfall because he is losing more and more respect every day and every time he tries to take from others. That was the problem in the first place so doing more of the same is not going to change the results. Even David Schirmer should know that. I think he needs to walk away and give everyone time to heal and himself time to be calm and make a committment to each person. I guess that is what the most ethical people do but I’m not sure David Schirmer understands what ethics are. Maybe it will take the enforcement of the law to make him come to his senses.

  • Schirmer is at it again lying thru his back teeth. Now he’s saying he’s done the firewalk with Tony Robbins 8 times but he hasn’t even been to to the seminar 8 times. What a wanker and caught out lying yet again Schirmer. Just can’t help yourself can you.

    And honestly, who the hell needs to go to a Anthony Robbins seminar 8 times? What does that say about it and you? You need to spend half your house attending Tony Robbins seminars because it’s impossible to get it anything of any value the first time? You aren’t considered a wanker until you’ve been 7 times. You have something to prove by saying you have been to the seminar 7 times. You are so thick that you want to spend your entire hard earned cash on temporary feel good seminars? Then you really should be considered a poor soul. You are a seminar junkie and just can’t help yourself? You think by going to a Tony Robbins event that he’ll call you his best pal and pay your bills for you?

    Schirmer will only go to Tony Robbins if he can go FREE! If he doesn’t go FREE then he is yet again STEALING FROM OTHERS by spending money on himself rather than PAYING HIS DEBTS.

    Schirmer, you are simply so deluded that you think the whole world wants to know what you’ve shit in the toilet bowl this morning.

    Get a life Schirmer, you are like a pimple of puss that the entire population is seeking a solution to be rid of.

  • *Edited – Opinions are encouraged, libel is not*

  • Not the same Julie obviously but I do want to put my opinion on here.

    I have been following the David Schirmer thing for a long time because I have considered the products that he is offering. After seeing what the result of his actions have been I have chosen to have nothing to do with him. There are so many beautiful people in the world that you can work with without being manipulated by greedy scum like David Schirmer. David and Lorna Schirmer have been totally overwhelmed by greed it seems and they must learn the lessons of that. There is no fun in watching anyone go down but it does seem the greater the ego and delusion the harder the fall. For the Schirmers sake I hope they wake up real soon.

  • I have to agree with Julie. It’s not nice seeing people fall from grace but like OJ Simpson, no-one is above the law. The fact that David Schirmer has affected so many people lives negatively and it seems right up the east coast of Australia, is evidence enough that he needs to be removed from public life until he learns to mend his ways. The impact he has had on a number of people seems to be really shocking. I don’t know how his family suffer it.

  • I want to see the authorities act quickly to put this guy in his place. I think they are extremely unprofessional in the way they have responded to all of the accusations and I doubt that so many people could be so wrong. Nothing that David Schirmer says holds any weight any more because it’s just not believable. I wish everyone well but I think this needs more than just blog coversations. I hop the authorities sort this out soon for both parties.

  • It is dissappointing to see so many people affected by David Schirmers greed. I hope that the authorities in Australia stop this quickly and allow everyone to get on with their lives. David Schirmer has no right to expect any other treatment than what he has given out and I would think he’s not enjoying it very much. It looks like he has made people suffer for years so he can expect a good few years of his own treatment. I don’t support anyone who has deliberately stolen from people just to benefit themselves and I don’t care who they might think they are either.

  • Schirmer is at it again, this time though he thught he would have a go in New Zealand, and what do you know, the Kiwi’s figured him out right from the start.

  • And Schirmer has just starred in another of his enchanting infommercials!!

    Man, is he a good marketer, he gets on TV in prime time.

  • Here is a link to the latest ACA interview (14 November in Oz)which incorporates a lot of the NZ interview. It also shows Schirmers latest “spin doctor” by the name of Warren Henningsen, trying to defend him outside the bathroom!!

  • Well to end the week on a most brilliant note, this is how David Schirmer answered the question in the book he is trying to flog WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE in which by the way, he wrote a whole TWO PAGES!! of his apparent wisdom.

    Who Do You Think You Are?

    “I am one of the most successful stock and commodity traders in the world and one of the most brilliant minds on the Law of Attraction.”

    Permit me to vomit, the guy is a deluded sociapath ( who is about to get his comeuppance for being such a royal ass. That shows the level of his serious delusion. When he can show any proof at all of his ability to even trade the market successfully then he will have a few ears. Until then he has successfully deluded himself to truly believe he is the best in the world.

    Enjoy the laugh!

  • David Schirmer is facing yet another Federal Court case on intellectual property charges.

    SCHIRMER, DAVID VID222/2008 Jlf Corporation Pty Ltd V Schirmer Financial Managemtn Pty Ltd & Ors INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY 15/04/2008 FCA Vic Current

    I think is just the beginning for this guy.

  • I feel sorry for the people who genuinely wanted to help him because it looks like all he has done is look after himself first. Even if he intended to pay people back he should have done that before he started boasting about buying the house and cars and table and stuff. He deserves what he’s getting because ethically it was very wrong of him. He should sell everything up, settle everything and then start again. I think that is the only way that people will tolerate anything from him now. No matter what he comes up with now it will never work because it can’t until he settles all his other problems. Every problem he has will only get worse from now, he just cant ignore it.

  • Episode 6 has been on and is on youtube. Schirmer v his own lawyer now in a court near you. Schirmer moved house and office, according to the guy on episode 6 he isn’t real honest about paying rent. Seems he expects the whole world to hand it to him for NOTHING. LOL, well guess what, he gets NOTHING in return. Idiot..

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