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	Comments on: Joel Osteen &#8211; Christian Minister or New Thought Activist?	</title>
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		By: Paige		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-1103112</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paige]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 00:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is 2014 and Joel is still on TV and he is on many channels.  That says something about him.  My husband and I watch him and it is like he speaks directly to us.  I feel better all week after watching him.  He speaks of God, how can that be wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is 2014 and Joel is still on TV and he is on many channels.  That says something about him.  My husband and I watch him and it is like he speaks directly to us.  I feel better all week after watching him.  He speaks of God, how can that be wrong?</p>
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		By: sakiaya andrews		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-266675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sakiaya andrews]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[hi joel osteen my name is sakiaya andrews im a big fan of you. i look at your program on tv and you are a true man of god. im from dertoit,mi and i love your show on tv. you have a wonderful wife to and you to. and god will bless u always. love you to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi joel osteen my name is sakiaya andrews im a big fan of you. i look at your program on tv and you are a true man of god. im from dertoit,mi and i love your show on tv. you have a wonderful wife to and you to. and god will bless u always. love you to.</p>
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		By: rene stricker		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-235670</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rene stricker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well Jesus said the word will judge you in the last day, and heaven and earth shall pass away but my word will never pass away rene]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Jesus said the word will judge you in the last day, and heaven and earth shall pass away but my word will never pass away rene</p>
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		By: askland		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-216311</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[askland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Swami,
Well, that&#039;s a main point you bring up right there. There are those that believe parts of the bible were written for the contemporary time they were written and there are those that believe the bible was written for all time and literal. It comes down to how people want to take the words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Swami,<br />
Well, that&#8217;s a main point you bring up right there. There are those that believe parts of the bible were written for the contemporary time they were written and there are those that believe the bible was written for all time and literal. It comes down to how people want to take the words.</p>
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		By: Swami Dhyan Sagari		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-216288</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Swami Dhyan Sagari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: Paul’s letters to the Church in Corinth to be followed ? ? ? ?

These letters were specific to the Church in Corinth. 

What does that have to do with today ? ? ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Paul’s letters to the Church in Corinth to be followed ? ? ? ?</p>
<p>These letters were specific to the Church in Corinth. </p>
<p>What does that have to do with today ? ? ?</p>
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		By: rene stricker		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-210171</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rene stricker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the bible warns us that the time will come when they will no longer endure sound doctrine but heap to themselves teachers having itching ears....paul warned everyone with tears night and day ...God told ezekiel to warn the wiked and the righteous if he turn from his righteousness...even the rich man in hell wanted a hell fire preacher to warn his brothers of their doom lest they come into this place of torment positive should be trashed for truth, it is the most arrogant of men that thinks he knows better than God and says God really doesnt know what hes talking about so i will leave this or that out i know better than God....thats the spirit of antichrist   rene]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the bible warns us that the time will come when they will no longer endure sound doctrine but heap to themselves teachers having itching ears&#8230;.paul warned everyone with tears night and day &#8230;God told ezekiel to warn the wiked and the righteous if he turn from his righteousness&#8230;even the rich man in hell wanted a hell fire preacher to warn his brothers of their doom lest they come into this place of torment positive should be trashed for truth, it is the most arrogant of men that thinks he knows better than God and says God really doesnt know what hes talking about so i will leave this or that out i know better than God&#8230;.thats the spirit of antichrist   rene</p>
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		By: C. Marie		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-204865</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C. Marie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 02:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting. Fundamentalist Christians taught me the saying, as a young child, &quot;The Devil is a Lie!&quot;. They don&#039;t even know how true that is. It is a widely accepted idea... let me repeat, it is a WIDELY accepted idea that the &quot;devil&quot; is the Master of Deception. Supposedly, the biggest and most widespread deception the devil has accomplished is &#039;making people believe that he doesn&#039;t even exist.&#039; How can this be true when the majority of people either believe this or have heard this?

The most ubiquitous deception accomplished by The Liar is that &#039;he&#039; DOES exist. Those of us who have New Thought and are embracing even newer thoughts about principles and wisdom of the ages understand a deeper meaning of Revelation 21:1-4. When you change the way you look at things the things you look at change. We are experiencing a &#039;New Heaven &#038; a New Earth&#039; because the way that we think about heaven &#038; earth is new. The former things have passed away. 

I&#039;d have to disagree that Christ &#038; New Thought cannot be reconciled (within one&#039;s own mind) but I&#039;d definitely agree that you cannot reconcile this in the mind of another. Teaching mysticism is fruitless. It cannot be done for a mystic experience is just that... a personal experience. You may introduce people to Esotericism but it&#039;s not even about whether they accept it or not. Babes in Christ need milk and cannot digest solid food.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. Fundamentalist Christians taught me the saying, as a young child, &#8220;The Devil is a Lie!&#8221;. They don&#8217;t even know how true that is. It is a widely accepted idea&#8230; let me repeat, it is a WIDELY accepted idea that the &#8220;devil&#8221; is the Master of Deception. Supposedly, the biggest and most widespread deception the devil has accomplished is &#8216;making people believe that he doesn&#8217;t even exist.&#8217; How can this be true when the majority of people either believe this or have heard this?</p>
<p>The most ubiquitous deception accomplished by The Liar is that &#8216;he&#8217; DOES exist. Those of us who have New Thought and are embracing even newer thoughts about principles and wisdom of the ages understand a deeper meaning of Revelation 21:1-4. When you change the way you look at things the things you look at change. We are experiencing a &#8216;New Heaven &amp; a New Earth&#8217; because the way that we think about heaven &amp; earth is new. The former things have passed away. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d have to disagree that Christ &amp; New Thought cannot be reconciled (within one&#8217;s own mind) but I&#8217;d definitely agree that you cannot reconcile this in the mind of another. Teaching mysticism is fruitless. It cannot be done for a mystic experience is just that&#8230; a personal experience. You may introduce people to Esotericism but it&#8217;s not even about whether they accept it or not. Babes in Christ need milk and cannot digest solid food.</p>
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		By: RichardSpeaks		</title>
		<link>https://conradaskland.com/blog/joel-osteen-christian-minister-or-new-thought-activist/#comment-199979</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems no one has written here for a while, but I will add to it anyway.

Good article and comments. I come from the opposite place. I was an evangelical Christian. Then, I found New Thought and have never looked back. Amy&#039;s &quot;positive message&quot; neglects some very import points, like, 99% of humanity is bound for hell because they don&#039;t believe the &quot;right&quot; way. That includes most of your family, friends, and colleagues, Amy. St. Thomas Aquinas said that one of the major joys of heaven is to be able to look over the edge of the abyss to watch all the sinners writhing in agony in hell. Sounds like a real gas, don&#039;t you think?

It comes to this: For God to create a creature with the ability to send itself to hell for all eternity, and to even create the hell for that purpose; to create a being (Satan) that could rebel against HIm, fall to earth and be loosed in the new Garden of Eden to tempt the Innocents (and they WERE innocent); to treat His so-called Chosen People the way he did throughout the early parts of the Old Testament; to behave as an angry, egotistical dictator; to find it necessary to create the horrible plan of salvation that included the crucifixion; the threats of church, the fears of the people for nearly 2000 years; the inquisitions; the arrogance of the missionaries around the world (we&#039;re here to save you from your horrible way of life); the divisions within Christianity itself, and of course, all of the superstitious nonsense about devils and demons and angels and... Well, I think that covers enough.

It all has nothing to do with being a good or bad person. It is all about believing a certain way. And that is the true crime here. All good Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and the rest are condemned to hell simply because they do not believe like you do, Amy. And that includes the multitudes who never heard anything about Christ throughout human history.

I would rather spend an eternity in hell than a single moment with the god of the Bible. But, gratefully, he is the product of the human mind, unreal, and unnecessary.

But, who am I to tell anyone what they should believe?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems no one has written here for a while, but I will add to it anyway.</p>
<p>Good article and comments. I come from the opposite place. I was an evangelical Christian. Then, I found New Thought and have never looked back. Amy&#8217;s &#8220;positive message&#8221; neglects some very import points, like, 99% of humanity is bound for hell because they don&#8217;t believe the &#8220;right&#8221; way. That includes most of your family, friends, and colleagues, Amy. St. Thomas Aquinas said that one of the major joys of heaven is to be able to look over the edge of the abyss to watch all the sinners writhing in agony in hell. Sounds like a real gas, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
<p>It comes to this: For God to create a creature with the ability to send itself to hell for all eternity, and to even create the hell for that purpose; to create a being (Satan) that could rebel against HIm, fall to earth and be loosed in the new Garden of Eden to tempt the Innocents (and they WERE innocent); to treat His so-called Chosen People the way he did throughout the early parts of the Old Testament; to behave as an angry, egotistical dictator; to find it necessary to create the horrible plan of salvation that included the crucifixion; the threats of church, the fears of the people for nearly 2000 years; the inquisitions; the arrogance of the missionaries around the world (we&#8217;re here to save you from your horrible way of life); the divisions within Christianity itself, and of course, all of the superstitious nonsense about devils and demons and angels and&#8230; Well, I think that covers enough.</p>
<p>It all has nothing to do with being a good or bad person. It is all about believing a certain way. And that is the true crime here. All good Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and the rest are condemned to hell simply because they do not believe like you do, Amy. And that includes the multitudes who never heard anything about Christ throughout human history.</p>
<p>I would rather spend an eternity in hell than a single moment with the god of the Bible. But, gratefully, he is the product of the human mind, unreal, and unnecessary.</p>
<p>But, who am I to tell anyone what they should believe?</p>
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		By: STEVE JEFFREY		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just believe the four spiritual laws Amy then you are saved from the futility of a purpose driven life with no assurance.
                                                       Steve]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just believe the four spiritual laws Amy then you are saved from the futility of a purpose driven life with no assurance.<br />
                                                       Steve</p>
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		By: Amy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose the rich man from Luke 16:19-31 would have wanted someone to come to and warn him about, from his own words, &quot;I am in agony in this flame.&quot; v.24  And again, &quot;warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.&quot; v.28  A true positive message is that Jesus Christ shed his sinless blood &#038; became sin for us so that we will not have to go this this awful &#038; real place of torment called Hell. This is the good news, that if we will repent of our sins, confess Jesus Christ as Lord, believe in our hearts that He is in fact, the Son of God who was raised from the dead on the third day, then we will be saved. Saved from an eternity in Hell. That&#039;s what I call a positive message!  Romans 10:9,10]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the rich man from Luke 16:19-31 would have wanted someone to come to and warn him about, from his own words, &#8220;I am in agony in this flame.&#8221; v.24  And again, &#8220;warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.&#8221; v.28  A true positive message is that Jesus Christ shed his sinless blood &amp; became sin for us so that we will not have to go this this awful &amp; real place of torment called Hell. This is the good news, that if we will repent of our sins, confess Jesus Christ as Lord, believe in our hearts that He is in fact, the Son of God who was raised from the dead on the third day, then we will be saved. Saved from an eternity in Hell. That&#8217;s what I call a positive message!  Romans 10:9,10</p>
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